it's my main class. Expend lots of MP to deal lots of damage. 3.0 Heavensward 5.0 Shadowbringers Arcanist Archer Astrologian Bahamuts Coil Bard BETA Black Mage Botany Classes Conjurer Crafting Dark Knight Dragoon Dungeon Featured FFXIV 2.4 Patch FFXIV 3.1 FFXIV Patch 2.3 Gathering General Gladiator Guides Into the Aether Jobs Lancer Machinist Marauder Mining Monk Moogreus News Ninja Paladin Patchnotes Primals Pugilist Scholar Summoner … Emerald Carbuncle. Biggest damage numbers! I somehow came across these blogs on lodestone, class evaluations. Flavor wise, it’s technically not a big leap from Black Mage. report. SMN: Very good class for progression fights, high dps but with slow build up (one of the highest dps in game and easier to reach high numbers on, but very hard to reach the skill cap), battle rez very valuable for progression and overall solid class. Black Mage. I've seen alot of people calling out in favor of both nerfing red mage and buffing black mage/summoner, which following S.E's trends in the past seems like it's destined to result in summoner/black mage being viable and red mage not so. FFXIV Jobs; FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner; Guide; Levelling Up; Pages in this Guide. I play BLM and SMN regularly as my main DPS classes. That said, movement isn't really a problem for them, just make sure to keep your pet alive and it can help with mitigating damage on various abilities that are spread out across the number of people hit. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 1 Intro; 2 Starting Off; 3 Levelling Up; 4 Openers; 5 Rotation; 6 Pets; 7 Demi-Summons; 8 AoE; 9 Role Actions; 10 How To Improve; Rotation. I was thinking I would get ARC to 30 to unlock summoner, but I enjoyed the THM playstyle a bit even though there seemed less abilities. Reading these might help you out, too. I thought I would at least need to for A9, but nope, she just hovers over the lava. The Summoner isn't my favorite but I haven't gotten into the Arcanist class just yet. The Black Mage is one of the simplest DPS Jobs in FF14. This thread is archived. Summoner vs Black Mage fun-wise [Discussion] Close. BLM's the first DPS class I've put effort into getting to 60 (thank you, PotD). Black Mages are getting skills that help upkeep their elemental gauge between enemies. Black Mage. Top Magic Ranged DPS The beast tribes of Eorzea worship and summon forth beings known … Just because the rotation isn't even a rotation at all, it's constantly changing based on what dots are about to fall off and how many aether stacks you have vs whether you can bane onto adds or fester a single target. Here you will find our most current information on how to play Black Mage at a high & respectable level. I have THM up to 15, and now ARC up to 22. I've always mained BLM, I really enjoy it. FFXIV Jobs; FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner; Guide; Rotation; Pages in this Guide. Also important is Raging Strikes, Hawk's Eye if Acc. It's just not fun at all. The summoner brings quite a bit more of utility to the team and is usally of higher value to the team than a BLM since having an extra class with rez and in some fights potential of using a pet is handy, that being said in fights where no one messes up this utility becomes unnecessary and a blm using apoc might even net a more useful utility skill. Let’s get into it. Level both up to 50 and choose whichever's playstyle you prefer. Head down that road toward the entrance … Really though, level them both. BLM is more or less a matter of keeping your Thunder DoT up, cast Fire spells while you have MP, and using Blizzard to regenerate your MP, use Scathe or Firestarter/Thundercloud if you need to move. Fire 1 spam just isn't interesting. 4 years ago. I just enjoy burning things down. Black Mage Role – FF14 Shadowbringers Guide. Plus you have some great single target dps you can save up by spamming ruin3 outside of DWT when necessary, which means you keep mana saved up for any tricky dps checks. I kid. To unlock Summoner, you need Thaumaturge to level 15. Trait Job Gauge. Summons also smart-target (can't hurt allies or heal enemies), which is a nice selling point. Both are viable at endgame. Heavensward came out, and Dreadwyrm Trance was a perfect fit for that big gap of 'inactivity' inbetween Aetherflow uses. BLM: High burst dmg, capable of highest dps in game, worst dps to do progression fights on, very little utility. I think both are very fun. 1 Intro; 2 Starting Off; 3 Openers; 4 Rotation; 5 AoE; 6 Role Actions; 7 Log Analysis; Log Analysis . Long wind-up time since you have to cast 4 DoT spells before you are doing your full DPS, meaning you are not very effective on trash mobs. Since they go hand in hand I knew SMN wasn't for me, I do play it for my static for turn 7 (need it for kiting if you aren't familiar with the turns). Garuda-Egi. 0. You have 3 primary DoTs that need to stay active as much as possible, as well as using Miasma 2 on occasion when Contagion is ready, plus Shadowflare if it's a pretty stationary fight. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Read about Black Mage vs Summoner vs Red Mage (Shadowbringers Edition) by FFXIV and see the artwork, lyrics and similar artists. With the latest buffs to fire and fire III, blm is very very strong even for sustained dps. I however have both leveled up with summoner with the slightly better weapon because I prefer BLM in fights where you have to control DPS (like Moogle Mog ex). (Oh yeah it has infinite resources). Cactuar (Aether)-Far as I'm aware, you can do everything. Rarely do I ever even need to move Garuda. Black Mage VS Summoner [Discussion] well im stuch choosing btw those 2. for now. Which immediately makes me want to learn how to play this version of the Job. DoTs are boring too, always have been. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Holy Stones don't kill people, people kill people. At least get BLM up so you can have swiftcast, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I would suggest trying both and see which one you enjoy the most, playing them at 50 is preferred because IMO BLM at 50 is completely different than how it is on the way to 50. Black mages also have a slight bit more utility from the toad spell, death, and arcane strength, however I recommend learning arcane strength, slapping it on a summoner, and letting him rip around the battlefield with shiva + icerod or ramuh + lightning rod. Titan-Egi. The first new ability in Shadowbringers is Despair a single target Flare. I'm still hot garbage at actually DPSing on BLM, but it's fun. They have really good survival abilities (Manawall for physical, Manaward for magical, Apocatastastis for other party member magic defense increase) and Lethargy to slow/gravity where applicable, but their main focus is to dish as much damage as possible while minimizing movement. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. They can do decent damage too, but you have to make sure you keep your dots rolling on the boss so you can out put the most that you can. Subscribe Subscribed Unsubscribe 8.29K. Summoner vs Black Mage fun-wise [Discussion] New-ish player here. I've also seen some people saying they'd like to just see straight buffs to summoner and black mage. BLM is better for running dungeons because of its AoE superiority. Pets boost nearby teammates with their abilities. Formidable single-target dps when able to remain stationary. Stormblood, however, gave us a heavily back-ended mechanic with Demi-Bahamut that felt extremely 'chunky' to use and turned me away from Summoner in favor of Red Mage. Cons: Movement, which interrupts spell casting. Comes with a variety of utility abilities/spells (buffs, debuffs). I don't have my SMN to 60 yet because managing a "lobotomized pet" is such a pain in the ass. Der Rotmagier ist ein magischer Fernkämpfer der Mana aufbaut, um mit seinem Rapier in den Nahkampf zu springen und massiven Schaden zu machen. They can also Raise in a pinch. Summoner bc im able to move, deathflare, half the time im double-weaving, I prefer summoner. I don't get it. Our AoE is simple, but feels like you're about to murder the entire world and, unlike some of the other casters out there, it's not crazy complex. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3779482/blog/1172540/, http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3779482/blog/1185980/. 3.0 Heavensward 5.0 Shadowbringers Arcanist Archer Astrologian Bahamuts Coil Bard BETA Black Mage Botany Classes Conjurer Crafting Dark Knight Dragoon Dungeon Featured FFXIV 2.4 Patch FFXIV 3.1 FFXIV Patch 2.3 Gathering General Gladiator Guides Into the Aether Jobs Lancer Machinist Marauder Mining Monk Moogreus News Ninja Paladin Patchnotes Primals Pugilist Scholar Summoner Tanking … FFXIV SHADOWBRINGERS: The Grand Cosmos RED MAGE GAMEPLAY 278 [1080/MAX PRESET]. When it comes down to spell costs, black mage spells are cheaper (mp / jp wise), summoner spells just plain cost more. Adrenaline Rush Job Gauge. Black Mage; Red Mage; Summoner; Raids; Resources; Allagan Studies; Streamers; Support Us; Contact ⌕ Summoner Guide 5.4 Levelling Up FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner. Black Mage; Summoner; Red Mage; Blue Mage; Gameplay Guide; PvP Guide; Job Actions. I don't play BLM much (I'm much more of a melee player DPS-wise) and I know there's plenty of frustrations to be had there but I do think it's more satisfying. A community for fans of Square Enix's popular MMORPG "Final Fantasy XIV Online", also known as FFXIV or FF14. Black Mage; Red Mage; Summoner; Raids; Resources; Allagan Studies; Streamers; Support Us; Contact ⌕ Summoner Guide 5.4 FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner Rotation. I really like DoTs, I rather see the enemy's health chip away rather than see big numbers. As a Summoner main, I have to admit, I have at best, superficial knowledge of this Job. SMN I enjoy much more at 50 and before. Cons: Mediocre AoE especially if there are more than 4 mobs in the pack. 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